Runner Triathlete News [ return ] From Message Generic Poster 9/29/2003 17:19:54 Subject: RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: Upon further review, I would like to change my position to "It doesn't matter." Do we really compete for a plastic trophy? Honestly, when I wake up at 4:30 to run before work, I don't do it because I just have to have another cheap looking trophy or medal to go on the mantle. I do it because I love the sport and love to compete. Give me a safe, well managed race with good competition, and the trophy thing is pretty insignificant in comparison. Double dipping? Hey, whatever. I'll be happy leaving a race knowing I competed hard and beat as many people as I could. I'll know if I won or not, regardless of what place is on the trophy. runner 9/30/2003 07:05:43 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: We recognize that someone over forty has a diminished capacity to run competitive open times that is why we have a sepcial "masters competition. Yet when a masters runner comes along and wins a race rather than rewarding them with both the overall title and the masters title we make them choose one. This doesn't make sense, if a 40 plus man or women has maintained their edge and can out run everyone at the race then they deserve both titles. It has nothing to do with the trophy but what is right. OLDTIMER   9/30/2003 09:11:10 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: Count me in as another one who has changed my mind after reading all of this the past few weeks. It doesn't matter. I am one of the masters who gets an award when a master wins overall and another master gets first master prize, THEN they give top 3 in my master age group. Many of your are right. Under those circumstances, I am NOT 3rd in my age group. I am fifth and should not kid myself. Slowrunner 9/30/2003 09:21:18 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: It is beyond me why anyone would want an award or even accept an award honoring him/her for something they did not do. This is bush league, it is bogus..its everyone runs and everyone wins. Awards should be given to the person who wins regardless of how many titles. Races should give one award honoring both or all three titles if necessary. Its like the triple crown in baseball, the best batting average, most home runs and most runs batted in. The hitter gets all three. You don't give him the home run title and then exclude him for the other two titles. ntexdir 10/05/2003 21:14:45 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: At today's Twin Cities Marathon, which loops from downtown Minneapolis back to St. Paul, American Eddy Hellebuyck was the big winner, in more ways than one. Hellebuyck, 42, a long-time resident of Albuquerque, N.M., ran the sixth-fastest marathon of his long career in 2:12:47. It was not only fast enough to win the race by more than one minute, but also smashed the U.S. masters record for the distance by over four minutes. It was the fastest marathon the Belgian-born athlete had run since 1995. Because the race was also the U.S. masters championships, Hellebuyck earned that title, too. His payday was at least $29,500: $20,000 for being the overall winner, $2,500 for being the first American, $4,000 for being the first 40+ finisher, and $3,000 for winning the U.S. masters title. He is likely to earn an additional $1000 for having the best age-graded performance, too. (He won it all and he gets it all) Homer Simpson 12/02/2003 13:16:23 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: I like stories. Homer Simpson 12/02/2003 16:17:30 RE: Double dipping for awards? IP: Logged Message: I like stories <<Original Post <<Previous Page P 8

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