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Jason
3/14/2004
20:41:03
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 Subject: RE: Do away with Chip Timing
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If the chip is offered you must wear the chip and your race number. If you don't, then you are a bandit. You don't have a choice of running without a number and looking at the clock. Bandits are a problem with or without the chip. Under no circumstances should we allow bandits on the race course.
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runner
3/14/2004
21:06:19
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Easy Jason,
You are a bandit if you do not pay. If you don't wear the chip then your time will not be recorded. Are you with the running police?
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NTDIR
3/17/2004
18:51:01
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Jason, you are 100% right. I've seen chip races where the event was filled with people who did not have a number and some with a number and no chip. Here comes a guy across the finish in first place with a number, but no chip. He was not the winner. The person in second place had the chip. You think this doesn't confuse the announcer and the crowd.
The only runners on the course should be the paying, chip-wearing runners. PERIOD.
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Faster than you
3/17/2004
22:21:31
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Please enlighten me as to which race a non-chip wearing runner(who wore his number) won the race. The instuctions for chip races say you will not be official unless you wear the chip. If you would like to be helpful remind runners to follow the rules like no headphones, # goes on the front and so-on and save your intrepretations of rules for yourself.
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NTDIR
3/18/2004
09:22:22
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Some races allow runners the option of signing up without a chip. In other words, if a runner does not want to be scored/timed he/she can get a number but not a chip. Spectators, announcers, the media and everyone else have no idea who the official runners are. The first one across the finish may or may not be the winner of this race. Its nothing but a big mess.
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Some random guy
3/18/2004
09:33:34
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My problem with chip timing is this: Your time for a race is the time elapsed from the firing of the gun to crossing the finish line. The chip doesn't start when the gun fires, it starts when you cross the little rubber matt. So hypothetically, if a race starts at 8:00, I could decide not to deal with the crowds, start at 8:30, get timed, and "beat" people who finished 30 minutes before me. It's just not right. This doesn't even get into the nasty situations in which gun time yields one result and chip time gives another.
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Coco B. Ware
3/18/2004
09:51:28
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None of you losers are ever going to win a real race. So stop talking about starting 30 minutes behind the crowd and possibly winning the race. The chip is designed for those individuals who want to monitor their own progress as far as times and distances. Worrying about the chip is idiotic. If you ask me the definition of a bandit is someone who is a 9-10 minute person who starts up front. We know who you are because we look at your chip time and then we look at your gun time. That is why we need the chip. Nothing worse than a bandit wearing headphones.
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random guy is stupid
3/18/2004
10:00:37
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to some random guy:
I dare you to name a single USATF certified race that scores based on chip timing over gun timing.
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Coco B. Ware
3/18/2004
10:09:49
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My prime example: I went to the results of the Bayou City Classic. There is a somebody who has 0.00 second difference between chip time and gun time. There is no problem with her starting on the start line except he/she freakin ran a over 10:30 per mile pace.
I think what runners fail to realize is the common courtesy that all the other sports have. Take for example Hoop it Basketball tournament, or a flag football tournament, or a volleyball tournament. All of these tournaments have divisions, so you play to your level. And yes a lot of people play up a level and some even play down a level. But to run a 10:00 minute mile and start on the start line is a classless move that goes beyond moving up and down one level.
On the other hand most of these runs are fun runs and people want to give to an organization and run in a race so I understand that people don't know any better.
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Some random guy
3/18/2004
13:37:19
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To: random guy is stupid:
http://www.texasmarathon.com/marathon.htm
From the above site:
ChampionChip Timing:
The Texas Marathon will use the computerized ChampionChip timing system, which records your time precisely from start to finish. Results and awards will be based on actual chip time. You must pick up your black loaner chip along with your bib number at packet pickup. You may use your own ChampionChip, however make sure it is entered on your entry form and it is your responsibility to ensure that it matches your bib number. If you do not wear a chip, you will not be timed and will not be included in any results. All loaner chips must be surrendered at the finish line.
You dared me to name one. There you go. This is a problem, and it threatens to spread throughout the sport like a bad rash.
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